23 Jan
Posted by small business management consultant as Medical Business
(in general) Most Mexican people you talk to about the debate on illegal immigration take a personal offense to this. It is not about hating Mexicans or any other illegal’s, it’s about money. I am a hard working, tax paying person that is just one little tick mark on the known and accounted for population of this country contributing smog, tax revenue, contributing to the economy, so I count as a driver on the road, or a student (if I had kids) in the public school system. Because of this, the government can estimate or have an idea of the overall strain on each of these services. Most people who take offense to this issue fail to understand that Americans really do not want to make this a race issue. They want everyone that is in this country to be a part of the Census so we are not faced with overcrowded roads, schools, housing, healthcare, etc. Is this really so wrong?
Anyone have an opinion on this?
31 Responses
♣PerSepH
January 23rd, 2010 at 9:03 am
1either because they are illiterate or just too ignorant to realize what racist mean. Being anti-illegal doesnt mean anti-mexican. However for them to automatically assume that anti’s are speaking of mexicans when illegal is presented suggest they are stereotyping their own people since they believe illegals are always mexican. the problems is themselves, not anti-illegals. Illegals will always try to play the race card if it means making an excuse for themselves.
these illegals are no more than the suppressed black who feel massa or the white man is always trying to keep him down. excuses excuses excuses
ex girlfriend
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
2Look at it from their point of view. How would you attack it? They are here illegally and this means they broke the American law. Can they say “I broke the American law and I am here illegally?” So they say….racist. You are being unfair to me. Treat me with dignity. My reply. “Go back to Mexico where you belong and come here legally.”
Victor M
January 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
3they know that the american people are cowards when it comes to dealing with racial issues and will cave in to “minority” groups when the the word racist is screamed.
NONAME
January 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm
4Because so many of them are racist!
Becuase they only focus on Mexico while only about half of illegals are Mexican. because the only times in my life that I’ve been discriminated against was in this forum by people like you. You think we say it for fun?
You know that some illegals pay taxes and work just as hard as you do right? or are you more ignorant than I believe…..http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/…http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/busine…http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/1…http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmi…http://www.ctj.org/blog/2006/01/georgia-…
Spazz™[F
January 23rd, 2010 at 10:42 pm
5First, you exploited the Mexicans for their cheap labor and their willingness to work in sordid, inhumane conditions…then you want to complain when the country is overrun by illegals and the fact that half the population will be hispanic by 2020. Who’s fault is it?
Di Di
January 24th, 2010 at 3:37 am
6Let’s see, when you:
1) Focus ONLY on Mexicans
2) call them “leeches” and “cockroaches” and “wetbacks”
3) Say that “MEXICANS are the main illegals!”
4) Say “Deport all illegals to Mexico!”
And you leave Canadians out of it
and you don’t show any interest in finding Al-Queda illegals who came here on Visas…GEE, YOU ARE IN DENIAL OF YOUR OWN RACISM!
bluddy_w
January 24th, 2010 at 7:07 am
7If you really think that this issue is about you listed, I must comment that this is as naive an opinion I have ever seen. I truly wish it were about such innocent things! Americans, by and large, may not wish to make this a racial issue but how about our Government? What is it that they wish to accomplish? I am fairly certain that this issue is about money more than it is about racism or anything else.
Chris B
January 24th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
8When all logic eludes them, all they can resort to is name calling. I wonder if Guatemalans consider Mexicans racist, because Mexico sure as hell doesn’t want them in their country!
Mexico has a right to defend their border. So do we.
America has been better to those that illegally invade our borders than any other nation in the world. Call Americans racist if you want Mexico. At least we aren’t a bunch of UNGRATEFUL HYPOCRITES!
AConcern
January 24th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
9You say this really well. I think the thing about playing the race card is in the liberals’ playbook. They use the race card as a smokescreen to confuse the issue. You are absolutely correct – it is NOT about race, but about money. You are not wrong. It is also possible, but not likely that they are not listening to what we say on the matter. They are only hearing what they want to hear.
mountain
January 24th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
10because they have no other leverage to justify their illegal entry and diversion of our resources. same reason lots of black people pull the race card, its easy, you dont have to have a logical arguement, and everyone gets scared of being called a racist and retreats
racist translated from spanish to english = PLEASSEEE LET ME STAY AND KEEP GETTING A FREE RIDE
seriously, do you know how much medicaid and welfare and every other benefit given to lower income citizens costs our government? a lot of them are getting medicaid already. i dont even care so much that many dont pay taxes, but when they start getting on these programs and we have to pay for public serivices, education, etc. for the currently 20 million illegal immigrants, its going to cost 100s of billions of dollars. its not a racial issue for me, its a *they came here illegally and uninvited and now are making all kinds of ungrateful demands to their host so its time we kick them all out* issue. just happens that +90% are spanish because we are surrounded by poor latin countries. the irish, italians, and other white groups have gotten a lot of guff in the past over immigration as well when people were pouring in from those countries
mnvikes
January 24th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
11They do not want the USA to enforce its immigration laws.
If Americans ever succeed in getting rid of illegal immigrants – deporting those who are already here and preventing the entry of others – there will be an outcry from Latino activists, civil libertarians and the business community.
In the short term illegal immigrants pay into the Social Security system which is almost bankrupt.http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/…
They also provide recruits for the military.http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3271…
But not all of them pay taxes.http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/Library/A…
In the long term Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion.http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigra…
Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Hunter have the most conservative voting records on immigration.http://www.betterimmigration.com/candida…http://www.betterimmigration.com/candida…
Of these three, Ron Paul has the best chance of winning the Primary election.
Paul’s campaign has almost 4 times as much money to spend as Tancredo.http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-…http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-…
Ron Paul has stated that he wants very strong borders and he was appalled that our government had taken border guards off of our borders to send them to Iraq.http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/haman3.…
This is his six point plan:
Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods. http://ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-sec…
The NAFTA Superhighway might be another significant threat to American borders.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBmFrYWPo…http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.…
Product & Services Reviews
January 25th, 2010 at 1:59 am
12I think some of them are just too sensitive and emotional to rationally discuss the issue of illegal immigration. Others, try to make it into a racial issue in order to deflect the discussion away from the pros and cons of illegal immigration. These dishonest people, not just Mexicans, but liberals too, know they cannot win an agrument for amensty for illegal aliens on its merits, so they resort to name-calling.
Shane
January 25th, 2010 at 1:59 am
13The answer is because you focus only on the Mexicans.
When you only scream at Mexicans, what do you think, we’re supposed to think you’re talking about Canadians?
Hotwheel
January 25th, 2010 at 6:08 am
14These people have nothing but the race card in their hands to make the laughable justification of the unbelievable damages on our society caused by these illegals. (yeah, I know some people are going to be up in arms about the U.S’s invasion in Iraq)
It’s quite amusing, if you read through posts by some of the supporters of illegal immigration or the illegals themselves, you start wondering why they couldn’t use their amazing skill in making excuses, twisting rules and blaming others on improving the systems in Mexico and other messed up Latin American countries.
refuseto
January 25th, 2010 at 7:40 am
15I still say we need to mine the border just as the Soviet Union mined its border during the cold war – harsh but very effective…
therealt
January 25th, 2010 at 9:39 am
16A lot of illegals pay taxes.
A lot of them have to work mostly for food and the gov’t nothing else. They can’t even drive legaly and most cant at all. I feel bad for them. I feel that as long as an illegal immigrant is paying taxes and collaborating with the society they have all the right to remain here. However if they are braking the law and not paying taxes then yeah they can leave. But the others have the right to stay especially students. Wow its sad how it is so hard for an illegal to go to college. Give them a brake!
danielle
January 25th, 2010 at 10:48 am
17Get and read the book Mexifornia. In it it lists the 8 ways to destroy America. Or do a google search on 8 ways to destroy America. In there they are taught, and using those exact listings as their instructions to destroy America.
spanish mortgage
January 25th, 2010 at 11:31 am
18VIVA MEXICO PINCHES GRINGOS!!! VAYANSE PA’ SU PINCHE CONTINENTE. BOLA DE BUEYES.
Please excuse my Spanish. I Don’t Speak it Very Well.
HappyB
January 25th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
19Guilt
they know they are the biggest offenders. It’s not a racial issue, it is fact. There are more Ilegal Immigrants in this country that are mexican then any other nationality.
The following 10 facts have been pulled from the LA Times.
1. L.A. County has 10 million people. 40% of all workers in L.A. County are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
2. Of the 10 million people in L.A. County, 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million Speak only Spanish.
3. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
4. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
5. Over two-thirds of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
6. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
7. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
8. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
9. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
10. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish language only
biwagirl
January 25th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
20I don’t think it’s racist, i just think that some people over here over reacts and attack Mexico, if you are against all kinds of illegal immigration then why do you attack Mexico? Why don’t you attack illegal immigration itself? i don’t care what you guys do with your laws that’s not of my bussines but i just can’t stand reading people attacking straight to the mexicans, how come? lots of immigrants wich jump the america’s border aren’t even mexicans, later i see some other people whinning about how Mexico kick some illegal immigrants out..shouldn’t you be grateful instead? at the end those immigrants doesn’t want to stay in Mexico they’re seeking to jump your border, we don’t care, we cannot deport mexicans or forbid them to travel up north until the boarderline they are mexicans and have the right to travel whatever they want to travel inside their country(Mexico) and some other people cries about the recomendations given to immigrants, the first recomendation is not to enter illegaly in the us (i bet you haven’t read those flyers), and later if that doesn’t stop them the govmnt it’s just seeking their safety, we don’t want people dying it’s just to help them staying alive in the dessert or so they are up to your laws when they get inside your country …
XxRemyxX
January 25th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
21it’s the Ace, so to speak.
really, there’s no way to defend ILLEGAL immigration. so you play the “racist”card.
or maybe they don’t understand it’s about illegal immigration, i don’t know.
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Quailman
January 26th, 2010 at 2:03 am
22They have no original thoughts and are using Civil Rights politics to further their own agenda. Notice how they called Elvira another Rosa Parks. MALDEF does exactly what the NAACP does. Kind of monkey see, monkey do. They are both heavily funded by the Ford Foundation and George Soros Open Society (open society being a euphemism for world socialism).
Paula Revere
January 26th, 2010 at 9:02 am
23When you have no reason or facts to support your views you pull the race card
Illegal is Illegal and not a race
F yahoo in Ash
January 26th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
24Simple. The United States borders 2 countries; one north of us and one south. That country to the north was never ruled by a country believing the King was God.
The southern one has never believed otherwise.
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take a number
January 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
25Also, Mexico is racist (otherwise why all the obsession with Viva la Raza, etc.), and so it is a projection of their own mentality.
Myself, I don’t give a —- what your race is. Just don’t sneak into my country illegally. You want to come legally, great: get in line, and while you’re waiting in line… learn English, it’s the language in which all our LAWS are written.
But other respondents basically nailed it: there just isn’t any other leg for them to stand on.
Rorschac
January 27th, 2010 at 12:22 am
26Because in the most simplified way I can say it, it’s because they are brown. That’s basically their excuse for everything. “you just don’t want me here because I’m brown, I understand”, jk They are stubborn race and don’t realize that by being here in this counrty illegally is wrong. They are not afraid to take things for granted. Infact for the most part they have some form of underground knowledge of loopholes to get past certain things that are illegal. I can understand their feelings for wanting to be in this country. But by all means do it properly. My grandfather entered this country from Mexico and became a US citizen the right way, so can they. On that note: “NO SE PUEDE!” lol It has nothing to do with race, they just make it seem that way so the gov can back down. They’re trying to make it seem like we are attacking them and making the US feel guilty. believe they are the guilty and they know it.
No Mas Tomas
January 27th, 2010 at 6:33 am
27Because race is the only argument they really have. It’s a proven fact that illegals are costing our schools and medical services. They know they are filling our prisons. They know that they are depressing wages and taking jobs. They know that Americans have a multitude of legitimate concerns.
But they still want to get they own way, by any means necessary. That leaves the race card, and now it seems they want to use religion, that we should be compassionate. The problem with that is the US CANNOT take care of every impoverished population (which, btw, Mexico doesn’t even qualify as)
Drixnot
January 27th, 2010 at 7:27 am
28you want make us believe you’ve spoken with a lot of Mexicans, LOL.
Chespiri
January 27th, 2010 at 8:44 am
29not everyone but a lot that do want the illegal immigrants out are racist. you can tell by their answers or questions, but i know there are a lot that are nice and just want like what you put. Hopefully something happens to where it works out for everyone.
some DO pay taxes…… they get checks which have taxes taken out… they get numbers from ss to file taxes every yr. I know because my husbands family file theirs every year!!!!!!!
~*livin*
January 27th, 2010 at 8:51 am
30Simple, they cannot find logical arguments to realistically state that illegal immigration is not a problem, so they turn to racism as an excuse to throw blame to those who want it controlled.
The majority of those who are against illegal immigration are against it simply because of that first word, “illegal”, and the security problems it creates. If you do not have a record of everyone in the country, then it grants free rights for those who choose to abuse that privilege. To have someone here, and not have any record of their existence (no social security number, not even records of fingerprints), you simply have no control over the population.
This country only exists and functions because of immigration, but the most likely thing that could cause this country to fall is illegal immigration. They are two separate entities, and only those who cannot create a valid argument against those who stand against illegal immigration choose to resort to racism. It’s an attempt to fool themselves into thinking that their thoughts are valid, instead of logically trying to decide what’s right here and the potential results of having people in this country completely unknown and undocumented.
One Tree Hill
January 27th, 2010 at 10:45 am
31NO legal argument to defense illegal aliens breaking the laws. Race card is being used to silent anyone against them and gain sympathy!!
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